Template talk:Death year and age

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Year link optional?

Can the single year linking (against current MOS style) be turned off? How about an optional parameter, like wiki=off? — Bellhalla (talk) 16:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

nowrap

Can we add a nowrap to the "(aged xxx)" part so when it wraps the whole part moves down? Leofric1 (talk) 21:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Precise death date but birth year only

Is there a way to have the range of ages at death in parentheses if we know only the year of birth but the exact date of death? (Often we don't have the DOB of people who were born in obscurity but later become notable.) Jeff Muscato (talk) 12:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Can someone with access please add an additional template parameter specifying the day of the month of death? --Doradus (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree, we need an option to specify the day of the death. - Esteban Zissou (talk) 19:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I was just going to ask about something of that nature. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 21:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. This template needs to be edited by someone who is good at that sort of thing so that the exact day of death can be entered. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 17:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Query

Is there any way to have this template work for inputting both month and years for birth/death dates? Thanks. Connormah (talk | contribs) 01:13, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

If you know both months you should know the day too and then you can use Template:Death date and age -- Esemono (talk) 02:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
The days are unknown. This is not a current situation, just something that may happen in the future. Connormah (talk | contribs) 03:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Exact death dates

Can we make {{Death year and age|1874|1802|07|05}} (and {{Death year and age|1874|1802|07|05|df=y}}) work? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

What if birth day is known but only month/year of death is known?

Like lets say they were born January 1st, 1910 but we only have the death date as December 1990 (just using an example here), isn't there a way we can set this? Thanks

Wgolf (talk) 20:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree that this is a void needing to be filled. Example: Saul Tepper died sometime in Jan. 1987, in New York, per Social Security Death Index for Saul Tepper. It's possible an obituary giving the exact day can't be found. {{death date and age}} threw an {{error}}, but neither is {{Death year and age}} adequate for this situation. {{Death year and age|year of death|year of birth|optional month of death}} allows for specifying an optional month of death, but not a specific date of birth. {{death date and age}} doesn't allow specifying an optional day of death, as it hard-errors on someone's good-faith attempt to do that by saying they died on day "zero". I'm not keen on creating yet another death-age calculation template to fill in the gap. Our existing templates should be made more flexible to handle these situations. We should be able to tell the difference between a specific day omitted by mistake and a specific day omitted because it is unknown. Wbm1058 (talk) 13:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
See this version of the page. We have a choice of accurately saying he died "(aged 87)" or "January 1987", but not both. Wbm1058 (talk) 14:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
If someone has some template edits in mind, the sandbox should be available while we wait for the protection level to be lowered. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
This other template works fine, as far as I can tell:
{{Death-date and age|January 1987|December 20, 1899}} → January 1987 (1987-02) (aged 87)
Maybe the documentation could be updated to point to that template to cover the situation above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

"Age" versus "aged"

The wording of the age at death has been discussed a few times. This time I am offering a solution. I just need a few more opinions on whether it does actually tackle the problem. Discussion at Template_talk:Death_date_and_age#"Age" versus "aged" Periglio (talk) 20:53, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

What if death day is known but only month/year of birth is known?

This is the opposite of the question above, but surely more likely. I just added an infobox to Henry Dodwell, born October 1641, died 7 June 1711. There is no version of {{birth date}} that accepts only month, and no appropriate version of {{death date and age}}. I'm very much aware that you could quickly multiply out the different combinations to be unmanageable, so is it simply the recommendation that we use plain text for cases where we know only the year, or only the year/month? David Brooks (talk) 00:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

The death date and age template should work fine. There is an example in the documentation. Post here if I am misunderstanding your question. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I think the problem is that template does not support missing parameters (in this case day, but often month as well). But I just realized that {{BirthDeathAge}} can do what I want, because it does support missing parameters, and I've used it in that article. It does require a death year, which is ignored if the B parameter is used. David Brooks (talk) 06:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)